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Style Writing vs. Literature

Hey everybody, type of new right here.

Wanna begin off by saying I used to be a literature minor all through school however have transitioned into being an editor for a number of literary magazines. I write quite a bit, however do not put something out, because it’s principally for refinement proper now.

I used to be looking for a literary neighborhood on reddit. I feel this subreddit is nice, as anyone who reads is genuinely higher off than anybody who would not (that is tremendous controversial, however I am possibly in the precise place. Studying is magical to me, and simply the explanation that I am alive. I am not gatekeeping studying, or judging those that do not, but it surely’s merely the very best factor in my life moreover music).

What I’ve discovered is that the individuals right here do not learn the type of issues I see are frequent in literary circles. All of us in any group I have been in can checklist off brief story writers we like, and most of us can checklist off particular brief tales we look after. I perceive that brief tales are extra of a craft factor, however even after we discuss our favourite books, they both are usually a part of the literary canon, or one thing extraordinarily up to date (which everybody instantly fixates on and writes down on listening to, for later studying).

I am questioning, why is that this hole so current in r/Books? 99% of the posts are about Y.A. literature, which I feel is completely okay and good to learn (hell, I LOVED twilight and starvation video games), however I am searching for extra likeminded individuals in terms of “studying that takes severe work, and is not at all times pleasing”.

I learn previous Russian literature (Brothers Ok, Anna Ok, Crime and P, Life and Demise of Ivan Ilyich). My favourite ebook is Moby Dick. I learn a whole lot of David Foster Wallace (every little thing he is each written, a whole lot of it a number of instances), Cormac McCarthy, Denis Johnson, Don DeLillo, and George Saunders. These are what I take into account important to the up to date writers’ breadth.

The place are the individuals who learn this type of shit? Is there a particular subreddit? Are we a dying breed? Once I meet somebody in actual life who reads any of those authors, it is like discovering a unicorn. I would like to have the ability to replicate that have on-line, so I can speak with somebody who truly understands the insane writing that has been put out within the final couple centuries, and our conversations simply circulate smoother, virtually simply.

P.S. This reads like an excellent pretentious shitpost, however I assure I’m 100% severe. And I do not decide anybody who loves The Starvation Video games by Suzanne Collins.

Comments ( 15 )

  1. >Is there a specific subreddit?

    Yup. r/TrueLit

  2. >but I’m looking for more likeminded people when it comes to “reading that takes serious work, and isn’t always enjoyable”.

    have you tried making a post and inviting people to join your discussion? or are you judging by what hits the front page? classics come up quite often here, especially your sort of popular classics not the super obscure ones, and get a decent amount of engagement.

    there is also a ‘Related Subreddits’ list on the sidebar, where you might be able to find something more fitting to the sort of discussion you are looking for.

  3. i think that it’s funny (or maybe i don’t) that this was downvoted to oblivion. i’m really not saying anything rude and i’m seriously trying my hardest (throughout the entire post) not to step on any toes, so i’m at a loss for words

  4. I will take Russian writing over pretentious Western “literature” any day of the week. So much of what is classified as “literature” cures my insomnia.

  5. You seem to consider “genre writing” and “literature” as being in opposition to each other. This is something that puzzles me, as it is something I have noticed a few other people online say.

    The way I was taught, literature is stuff written down. It comes in three forms: poetry, prose, and plays. *Hamlet*, *The Jabberwocky*, journal articles, *Redwall* and newspaper reports are all literature.

    Genre is the the type/style of what is being written. It is a way of categorising literature, but there is no set way of doing so. There might only be two, tragedy and comedy, as the ancient Greeks thought; or there could be many, which may include romance, fantasy, mystery, history, academic. There is no such thing a genre-less work. A work may not be easy to identify what genre it belongs to, but that does not mean it isn’t part of any genre.

  6. You might also be interested in r/classicbookclub which just started the Idiot and just finished North and South by Elizabeth Gaskell.

    You might also be interested in r/askliterarystudies.

    I’ve seen some very sophisticated discussions of classics here, but also the DaVinci code. With millions of members, people just scroll past if they aren’t interested.

    But if you sort by new, you will see people discuss classic books here.

  7. I see users mention the books you mention.

    I think what you have is a percentage gap.

    What percent of users do you think will be sharing your list and viewpoint compared to what percent of users are either past you on their reading journey or who are just starting out on their reading journey? No matter where you go you’ll be in the minority, the sun you are interested will be smaller than this one.

  8. you could have saved yourself a lot of time by just going to r/literature or r/TrueLit, which are the top two search results when you google “reddit literature forum”. you could also at any time have started a discussion in here about any literary book you want. There have been posts about authors like Kazuo Ishiguro and James Joyce in the last few days. You seem a bit more interested in complaining about a lack of discussion than you are in finding it.

  9. You might try r/lit or r/truelit. This is a pretty general sub.

    Although I think the overlap you’d get would inevitably vary. I also took English at uni, but am suspicious of writers who are insufficiently dead, American writers (who always are, especially if not even dead at all), and don’t like reading in translation.

    Please don’t encourage this sub to think reading literature is work, it’s mostly not even difficult.

  10. Join us over on r/ClassicBookClub – we just started reading The Idiot. You might also enjoy r/literature

  11. I like literary books that are also humor books, because they sort of take the capital L out of Literary (like Joseph Heller’s *Catch 22* or *The Very Minute Manager*).

  12. I was an English major and used to only read the things I considered literature. Most of the people you named. Then I ran out of stuff to read. It’s hard when most of the people I considered literature were dead or published a book every ten years.

    Then I got mad at myself. I just wanted to read. So I picked up a Harlan Coben book, then Michael Connelly. Soon I took my friends reccomendations seriously and was reading Pierce Brown and NK Jemisin. I’m now a much better and happier reader than I’ve ever been.

    People like to draw this line between Literature and Genre Fiction but I have found a lot of meaning, nuance, and depth in the books I read now.

  13. You’re probably in the right place. Just post about one of those authors and see who shows up. I even read some of that kind of shit myself.

  14. >I read old Russian literature (Brothers K, Anna K, Crime and P, Life and Death of Ivan Ilyich). My favorite book is Moby Dick. I read a lot of David Foster Wallace (everything he’s every written, a lot of it multiple times), Cormac McCarthy, Denis Johnson, Don DeLillo, and George Saunders. These are what I consider vital to the contemporary writers’ breadth.

    What’s vital to “the contemporary writers’ breadth” is exclusively white men?

    I have a graduate degree in English Literature and I’ve read all that stuff and more. So go ahead, what was it you want to talk about?

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