LPT: At all times hunt for a job if you’re completely happy together with your present job versus if you desire a job.
Chances are high that you’re going to negotiate a significantly better supply WHEN you negotiate since you’re detached to the various mediocre presents given your satisfaction.
Ofcourse, it’s important to do it if you desire a job change, however there is not any motive to cease trying anytime.
Edit1: For individuals having considerations concerning job searching, it would not need to take a lot time should you’re not trying actively. I take advantage of LinkedIn about 20 to 30 minutes frequently. I’ve constructed my community in HRs and senior managers in trade. I join with individuals who had been alums from faculty or identical companyhobby, if I see some attention-grabbing challenge they posted about and many others. Just some phrases exchanged every so often. Even should you simply want them on their birthdays, work anniversary and many others. And I submit roughly month-to-month and even much less. So if there’s a gap they submit about, I get to know routinely or in the event that they search, I am one of many prime search consequence.
Edit2: Folks appear to contemplate supply when it comes to pay solely. I meant supply as in proposition in its entirety. It is every part they provide together with setting, progress and many others or no matter issues to you. Because you’re casually trying, you’ll be able to speak to individuals within the firm and get to know these items. The concept is that this. In case you’re happy, merely more cash will clearly not entice you. You’ll reject quite a lot of presents. However WHEN you settle for one, it is assured to be higher. And you may demand for extra. Afford to lose the negotiation.
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…there are people who are satisfied with with their jobs?!
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I understand your point but job hunting, job interviews and starting a new job are things that are stressful af. If you’re satisfied with your current job, maybe enjoy that.
But I’m perfectly satisfied with my job and don’t want to leave. What the fuck is the point of job searching when you don’t want to job search?
I have never been perfectly satisfied working to make money for someone else, which is why I work for myself.
If you feel that’s a good use of your free time then I guess but most people probably want to do other stuff than job search after working.
I suggest even if you’re not job hunting, take these interviews and practice. If you get an offer, you can use it for a pay raise too
Hunt for a job when you’re no longer satisfied, but still employed. Always easier to get a job when you already have one, then when you’re unemployed.
No. I think I’m going to stick to my plan of looking for jobs when I’m looking for jobs, thanks.
The best time to look for a new job is when you don’t need one.
I would give slightly different advice: Job search when you’re starting to feel dissatisfied with your current job, but don’t rush it and avoid giving off the vibe that you’re dissatisfied when interviewing or negotiating.
Job searching was pretty stressful when I was looking for one and I don’t want to have the mindset of “the grass is greener elsewhere”. I like my current job and the people I work with, and I like using my free time to wind down, do hobbies, or have a social life.
I don’t want to take time away from all of that for something I may not even commit to. No amount of extra income can add to what I already have if it means a drastic change, such as moving to a another neighborhood/district/city or potentially a less satisfying work culture. In the end, when I’m off the clock, work is the last thing I want to worry about.
I want to change jobs but I’m absolutely terrified of finding a job worse then what I have or that it just won’t work out. It’s a personal problem and one I’ve been struggling with for a few years.
I regularly apply and interview, even when I’m happy and comfortable.
I’d rather eat a turd sandwich than used Linked In.
“Always”.
So if my job is shit and I fucking hate it, I should absolutely stay in that job and cling on until I somehow magically start to be satisfied in it before I start looking for something else? I’m sure you didn’t intend your advice to mean that.
How does this apply to careers that don’t use LinkedIn? I make 120k and have never met anyone in my field who has ever even mentioned the word LinkedIn.
Never turn down an interview. Worst case you get better at interviews, best case you find a better job or have plenty of backups if shit goes wrong.
If you searching for similar job in the same city/area won’t your manager the resume?
Sorry, but this is just a horrible take.
Searching for positions, interviewing, research, etc are all very time consuming. I think it’s important to keep in touch with industry contacts, but incredibly foolish to waste so much of your time and others interviewing.
Edit: it looks like in your “edit” your trying to backpedal but it just makes the entire post confusing.
What kind of life pro tip is this?
If you are completely satisfied with your current job, why on earth would you look for another job?
I agree with this and as stated in the edit, theres no need to be actively job hunting as that can be draining. The LPT from OP here is to always be networking and open/on the lookout for cool opportunities.
Not sure why there are so many people disagreeing with you. If you love your job, great! But it’s better to be looking for other jobs while safely employed, than end up being desperate.
I’m not going to waste my time looking for a new job when I’m satisfied with the one I have
Being open to recruiters and head hunters is what I’d clarify the thought here. I def at more open to taking the calls and chatting for a few minutes. But when I job hunt it’s a part time if not full time job. So there’s a balance of what you’re trying to do.
I dont do any of that stiff because it’s fake. I also don’t want to hear from you because it’s fake.
Always be apprised of your market value.
I mean. If you’re *perfectly* satisfied..
I would miss 7 years of perfectly fine job if I did that …
What if you have to give notice?
I don’t necessarily agree. If you are satisfied, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. I have made some of the worst decisions in my career by leaving jobs I was happy at in the pursuit of making more money. It’s not until you’re miserable at work 40+ hours a week that you realize money isn’t everything.
I’ve never really been perfectly satisfied with a job in my entire life.
Yes it’s called “ride the donkey until you find the horse”
I understand your point but if you are satisfied with your job why risk it to find another one that in principle is good but later turns out to be way worse? Just to get more money? I personally value more being satisfied and in a nice environment than getting more money out of it.
Is LinkedIn where people get jobs now? How does this work, is it just HR departments scouring for skills listings? Or is it that you know someone who has heard of a vacancy in their company and they think of you because you are connected to them on LinkedIn? Or something else?
LPT: Look for a new job every year before your performance review so you can negotiate pay raises with leverage and if you find an opportunity that’s really interesting you can always move on without pressure.
Working without fear always gets better results. Pursue your job as if you don’t care if you get fired but you want to do the best job you can.
Sports analogy : try to win the game, don’t try to sit on a lead.
Definitely agree.
1. You never know when you’ll be let go by the employer. Job hunt while unemployed is super stressful, and I am likely to fuck up first few interviews until I get confidence back.
2. Your market value out paces the annual raise (if you even get that). Staying put will reduce lifetime earnings significantly. In USA, maxing out salary is important for social security that one will need for retirement whether voluntary or just unable to work anymore.
I’m 1.5 years into a good job that i plan to leave after 3rd year. The pay bump I got taking the job drastically changed my financial well-being for the better, offsetting the stress of the work.
If #1 happens, I have some buffer. Three years in my industry is not an unusually short duration, so it doesn’t spook any potential employers. YMMV
Keep in practice for #1, which in turn sets one up for maximizing earnings. Hopefully, I will be able to retire with a few years left.
You can even passively look for a job. I’m save a pretty specific job & have email alerts set on two sites for when those specific types of jobs come up. OP mentions LinkedIn, but this method is even less time.
Great advice! Same goes for your girlfriend or wife. In case that one day you break up or get a divorce, don’t worry! You got dat pussy waiting for you the moment you’re single again!
Or ya know…enjoy your life and the job your are happy with.
Grass is always gonna seem greener if you are constantly looking for the next thing.
what a mess of a advice. took me way too long to actually catch your point.
I disagree. If you’re happy, that’s rare in today’s job market. Stick where you are.
What I DO believe is that you should start job hunting at the first signs of misgivings about a job. Don’t wait until you’re absolutely miserable and ready to quit. You can always turn down an interview or job offer, but getting either can take some time.
I have no connections for the realization that they are all hollow and opportunistic to gain a greater foothold in this ladder of an economy.
There’s also no good jobs.
Agreed, I also update my resume every 3-4 months and see what nibbles I get. Use a dedicated gmail account and GVoice number for this sort of stuff.
When nibbles drop off I take a training class or look for what skills I need to update on.
Invest in You has a much greater return than investing in the market
Who the hell has time for this?
I sometimes apply to companies I’m interested in just touring
Why are you leaving your perfectly good career with 10+ years of tenure where you’ve consistently progressed and grown? This is the question I get stumped on. The recruiters can see right through my BS. Do I need to change my resume? Tips?
“I’ve finally found the job of my dreams, better start looking for a new one”